1 00:00:55,999 --> 00:00:57,999 G'day, mate. What are you doin'? 2 00:00:59,999 --> 00:01:02,998 Let me guess. You're lookin' for a lift, right? 3 00:01:02,999 --> 00:01:04,998 Uh, yeah. 4 00:01:04,999 --> 00:01:06,999 Where you off to? Melbourne. 5 00:01:07,999 --> 00:01:09,999 Right. I'm not going to Melbourne, mate. I'm going to Canberra. 6 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,998 Does that help? Yeah, that'd be great. 7 00:01:11,999 --> 00:01:13,998 Alright. I just gotta go in the shop here. 8 00:01:13,999 --> 00:01:16,998 Take your stuff and whack it in the truck there and I'll be right out. 9 00:01:16,999 --> 00:01:18,999 Cheers. 10 00:01:32,999 --> 00:01:35,998 G'day, anyway. Name's Bill. Um... Paul. 11 00:01:35,999 --> 00:01:37,998 Paul Onions. Oh, Onions! 12 00:01:37,999 --> 00:01:39,998 Like the bloody vegetable, mate. 13 00:01:39,999 --> 00:01:41,998 You know, I think you're the first real Aussie bloke I've met. 14 00:01:41,999 --> 00:01:43,999 That's gotta be a bloody good thing, don't it? 15 00:01:58,999 --> 00:02:02,333 Yeah, so, I finished up and decided to get out and see the world a bit. 16 00:02:02,334 --> 00:02:03,999 Right. 17 00:02:04,999 --> 00:02:08,500 Do you, um, get any special forces training in the navy, do you? 18 00:02:08,501 --> 00:02:09,998 No. No, no, no, nothing like that. 19 00:02:09,999 --> 00:02:12,998 Just, uh... I worked on the air conditioners, actually. 20 00:02:12,999 --> 00:02:14,998 So, I'm an engineer. 21 00:02:14,999 --> 00:02:15,999 Engineer? 22 00:02:17,792 --> 00:02:18,998 How long you been in Australia? 23 00:02:18,999 --> 00:02:20,998 Oh, about five weeks. 24 00:02:20,999 --> 00:02:23,998 Right. You meeting anyone in Melbourne, are you? 25 00:02:23,999 --> 00:02:28,999 No. Just, uh... just heading to a job, actually. Fruit picking. 26 00:02:31,999 --> 00:02:34,999 You look a bit tired, mate. You should have a sleep. 27 00:02:35,999 --> 00:02:37,999 I'll look after the driving. 28 00:03:11,999 --> 00:03:13,998 What's going on? 29 00:03:13,999 --> 00:03:16,998 When you... get this far out of Sydney, 30 00:03:16,999 --> 00:03:18,998 the radio doesn't pick up a station, 31 00:03:18,999 --> 00:03:21,000 so I'll just check in the back for my tapes, OK? 32 00:03:28,999 --> 00:03:30,998 Hey, mate, what are you doing? I was just stretching my legs. 33 00:03:30,999 --> 00:03:33,998 No, stay in the car, mate. I'm just gonna stretch my legs. 34 00:03:33,999 --> 00:03:35,999 No, stay... Just stay in the car, OK? 35 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,999 I'm just gonna look for those tapes under the seat. 36 00:03:40,999 --> 00:03:43,999 Is everything alright? Yeah, everything's good, mate. 37 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,998 You know what this is? Whoa. 38 00:03:47,999 --> 00:03:50,333 It's a robbery, you stupid Pommy prick. 39 00:03:50,334 --> 00:03:52,998 Alright, mate, there's no need to do this. What you doing? 40 00:03:52,999 --> 00:03:54,333 Get back in the car and put your seatbelt on. 41 00:03:54,334 --> 00:03:55,998 What are you doing? Shut up, mate. 42 00:03:55,999 --> 00:03:59,999 Get back in the car and put your seatbelt on, alright? 43 00:04:03,999 --> 00:04:05,999 Just relax. 44 00:04:10,999 --> 00:04:12,666 Get back into my truck! You're mad! 45 00:04:12,667 --> 00:04:15,333 Come back! 46 00:04:15,334 --> 00:04:17,998 Stop! Get back in the car, mate! 47 00:04:17,999 --> 00:04:19,998 Get back in the bloody car! 48 00:04:19,999 --> 00:04:22,834 Stop the car! Stop the car! Get back in the car! 49 00:04:24,999 --> 00:04:28,500 Stop the car! Stop! Stop please! Stop the car! Stop the car! 50 00:04:28,501 --> 00:04:30,998 Please. Thank you. He's got a gun. He's got a gun. 51 00:04:30,999 --> 00:04:31,998 Get back in the bloody car! Get out. 52 00:04:31,999 --> 00:04:33,998 Get out. I've got kids in here! Get out. 53 00:04:33,999 --> 00:04:37,998 I'm in. Drive. Drive. He's got a gun, he's got a gun. You just go. 54 00:04:37,999 --> 00:04:39,999 Just drive, drive, drive. Drive, drive, drive. 55 00:05:03,999 --> 00:05:05,998 I knew you'd panic, Mum. 56 00:05:05,999 --> 00:05:06,998 We're nowhere near the earthquake. 57 00:05:06,999 --> 00:05:08,998 Ring us when you get there, Joanne. 58 00:05:08,999 --> 00:05:10,559 I really don't like you hitchhiking, OK? 59 00:05:10,584 --> 00:05:12,584 00:05:30,998 Is a callous murderer preying on young tourists, 67 00:05:30,999 --> 00:05:32,998 in Real Life with Stan Grant. 68 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:34,998 Welcome to Real Life. 69 00:05:34,999 --> 00:05:36,998 One of the main reasons foreign tourists give 70 00:05:36,999 --> 00:05:38,998 for coming to Australia 71 00:05:38,999 --> 00:05:40,998 is they see us as a safe country. 72 00:05:40,999 --> 00:05:43,998 How, then, to explain two young German backpackers 73 00:05:43,999 --> 00:05:45,998 vanishing without trace? 74 00:05:45,999 --> 00:05:48,998 As Jane Hansen finds, there have been other mysterious disappearances 75 00:05:48,999 --> 00:05:51,998 that raise fears of a criminal pattern. 76 00:05:51,999 --> 00:05:53,333 In the past 18 months, 77 00:05:53,334 --> 00:05:56,500 six international tourists have gone missing in Australia 78 00:05:56,501 --> 00:05:57,998 without a trace. 79 00:05:57,999 --> 00:06:00,998 And the latest case is that of missing German couple 80 00:06:00,999 --> 00:06:02,998 Gabor Neugebauer and Anja Habschied, 81 00:06:02,999 --> 00:06:05,833 officially missing since Christmas. 82 00:06:05,834 --> 00:06:07,998 We are the parents of Gabor Neugebauer. 83 00:06:07,999 --> 00:06:09,998 We are looking for our son. 84 00:06:09,999 --> 00:06:12,998 21-year-old Gabor and 20-year-old Anja 85 00:06:12,999 --> 00:06:15,833 arrived in Australia last November. 86 00:06:15,834 --> 00:06:19,998 The couple had planned to return to Germany on January 24, 87 00:06:19,999 --> 00:06:22,998 but since their last phone call home on Christmas Eve, 88 00:06:22,999 --> 00:06:25,500 their families have heard nothing. 89 00:06:25,501 --> 00:06:29,998 This is our son, and this is his girlfriend Anja Habschied. 90 00:06:29,999 --> 00:06:31,998 She has red in her hair. 91 00:06:31,999 --> 00:06:35,999 We want to know if anyone has any information of where they might be. 92 00:06:39,834 --> 00:06:41,998 One new message. 93 00:06:41,999 --> 00:06:43,500 Hello, Paul. 94 00:06:43,501 --> 00:06:45,998 This is Dr Stein, your psychologist, 95 00:06:45,999 --> 00:06:48,999 confirming your session on Tuesday evening at 7pm. 96 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,999 Thank you. 97 00:06:54,999 --> 00:06:56,999 End of final message. 98 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,998 Not going to work today, Ivan? 99 00:07:09,999 --> 00:07:11,999 What's that, Mum? Not going to work? 100 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,998 Nah. Got the day off. 101 00:07:13,999 --> 00:07:17,500 Oh-ho-ho! Oh, looks really good. 102 00:07:17,501 --> 00:07:18,998 Really, really good. 103 00:07:18,999 --> 00:07:20,998 Oh, come on, Bodgy, you're just saying that. 104 00:07:20,999 --> 00:07:21,998 Nah. 105 00:07:21,999 --> 00:07:24,998 Can I help, brother? Please. 106 00:07:24,999 --> 00:07:26,998 Oh, yeah, I suppose. 107 00:07:26,999 --> 00:07:28,998 You can hose the rims out, if you want. 108 00:07:28,999 --> 00:07:30,998 Yeah, um, hose... Here y'are, mate. 109 00:07:30,999 --> 00:07:33,998 Hey, mate, did you... you got that Lotto ticket? 110 00:07:33,999 --> 00:07:35,999 Oh, shit, yeah. I almost forgot. 111 00:07:36,999 --> 00:07:38,998 There you go. Cheers. 112 00:07:38,999 --> 00:07:40,998 Gotta be in it to win it, eh, bro? Mm-hm. 113 00:07:40,999 --> 00:07:42,833 You've missed a spot, Bodge. 114 00:07:42,834 --> 00:07:44,999 You missed a spot. Where? Where? Where? 115 00:07:46,334 --> 00:07:47,998 Hey! Hey! What do you think... 116 00:07:47,999 --> 00:07:49,998 Shirley! You love it. 117 00:07:49,999 --> 00:07:51,666 Hey, Shirley. 118 00:07:51,667 --> 00:07:52,998 Oh, you think that's funny? 119 00:07:52,999 --> 00:07:54,999 Oh, you think that's funny? Yeah, I fuckin' do. 120 00:07:55,999 --> 00:07:58,998 Come here! Look, here! Come here! Cut it out. 121 00:07:58,999 --> 00:08:00,998 No! How do you like that? 122 00:08:00,999 --> 00:08:02,998 Do you like that? Hey? What about that? 123 00:08:02,999 --> 00:08:05,666 Cut it out. 124 00:08:05,667 --> 00:08:07,998 You smell nice. I what? 125 00:08:07,999 --> 00:08:09,666 You smell nice. Give me the hose. 126 00:08:09,667 --> 00:08:11,333 There's something wrong with you, Shirl. 127 00:08:11,334 --> 00:08:12,999 You watch yourself. 128 00:08:13,999 --> 00:08:16,166 Hey, Paulie. What's going on here? 129 00:08:16,167 --> 00:08:17,998 Hey. How are you, champ? 130 00:08:17,999 --> 00:08:19,998 Good, mate. Good to see you, mate. 131 00:08:19,999 --> 00:08:20,998 Yeah. Eh? Doing alright? 132 00:08:20,999 --> 00:08:21,998 Yeah. Good man. 133 00:08:21,999 --> 00:08:23,998 You remember Paulie, don't youse? G'day. 134 00:08:23,999 --> 00:08:26,998 He's working the Easter Show, I said he could just spend the night. 135 00:08:26,999 --> 00:08:29,500 Is that alright, or... Oh, yeah, whatever. 136 00:08:29,501 --> 00:08:32,666 Yeah, as long as he behaves. Doubt he will. 137 00:08:32,667 --> 00:08:34,999 Turn it off. Turn it bloody off. Better watch yourself. 138 00:08:37,999 --> 00:08:40,998 I heard if we get off at a place called Casula, 139 00:08:40,999 --> 00:08:42,500 no-one mans the station, so we don't have to pay. 140 00:08:42,501 --> 00:08:45,166 Well, I don't mind paying. Yeah, but why pay if you don't have to? 141 00:08:45,167 --> 00:08:46,998 It's brill, and we just hitch from there. 142 00:08:46,999 --> 00:08:48,998 When did you get that? Lovely, isn't it? 143 00:08:48,999 --> 00:08:51,999 Mum and Dad sent it. Oh, yeah. 144 00:08:52,999 --> 00:08:54,999 Right, you ready? Oh, this is gonna be great, Jo. 145 00:08:56,999 --> 00:08:59,998 Mum and Dad would be stunned if they knew. 146 00:08:59,999 --> 00:09:01,999 Fruit picking, ME? They'd laugh. 147 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,999 Jesus Christ, Ivan. 148 00:10:34,999 --> 00:10:37,999 You, um... you been shootin'? 149 00:10:40,999 --> 00:10:42,501 Yeah. 150 00:10:43,999 --> 00:10:46,999 Yeah, what did you catch - a roo, yeah? 151 00:10:52,999 --> 00:10:54,998 Want a cup of coffee? 152 00:10:54,999 --> 00:10:56,998 I'll, um... I'll get you a coffee. 153 00:10:56,999 --> 00:10:59,000 How do you take it? Black. 154 00:11:20,999 --> 00:11:23,998 We can't put our minds to anything. Not cooking, not work. 155 00:11:23,999 --> 00:11:25,999 The pressure's too much for us. 156 00:11:27,999 --> 00:11:29,999 Jo's been missing four months now. 157 00:11:30,999 --> 00:11:32,999 And, um... 158 00:11:34,834 --> 00:11:36,998 ..I just want things to go back to normal. 159 00:11:36,999 --> 00:11:40,999 For Jo to ring up so we can go on with our lives. 160 00:11:42,999 --> 00:11:45,119 There has to be someone out here that knows something. 161 00:11:46,999 --> 00:11:50,998 I'd just like to add, at this point, there's nothing to suggest 162 00:11:50,999 --> 00:11:55,998 that either Joanne or Caroline have been harmed in any way, so... 163 00:11:55,999 --> 00:11:58,998 Detective Gordon, do you have any idea where they could be? 164 00:11:58,999 --> 00:12:02,998 The girls, they were last seen leaving Kings Cross on April 18. 165 00:12:02,999 --> 00:12:05,998 South of Sydney, there were unconfirmed sightings of them later that day. 166 00:12:05,999 --> 00:12:07,998 I'm asking if you have any idea where they are now. 167 00:12:07,999 --> 00:12:09,998 No. 168 00:12:09,999 --> 00:12:13,998 At this point, we have no clues as to their present whereabouts. 169 00:12:13,999 --> 00:12:18,667 Which is why we've come from Wales, to appeal to someone who must know. 170 00:12:19,999 --> 00:12:22,998 Where is our daughter? 171 00:12:22,999 --> 00:12:24,998 Where is Joanne? 172 00:12:24,999 --> 00:12:26,999 Please... 173 00:13:04,999 --> 00:13:05,998 You know where you are? 174 00:13:05,999 --> 00:13:07,998 Yeah, let me check. 175 00:13:07,999 --> 00:13:10,999 You run too fast, mate. You run too slow. 176 00:13:14,999 --> 00:13:16,998 Keith... 177 00:13:16,999 --> 00:13:18,167 Keith! 178 00:13:23,999 --> 00:13:25,501 Oh, shit. 179 00:13:33,999 --> 00:13:36,500 This is Detective Godden. Bob Godden. 180 00:13:36,501 --> 00:13:38,167 The constable will take your details. 181 00:13:39,334 --> 00:13:41,998 We'll get back to you shortly. Yeah, OK. 182 00:13:41,999 --> 00:13:42,998 Tyre tracks... 183 00:13:42,999 --> 00:13:44,998 I was just going down my normal track... 184 00:13:44,999 --> 00:13:47,167 Christ... Just this stench... 185 00:13:48,999 --> 00:13:51,998 Joanne Walters' body was lying on her stomach, 186 00:13:51,999 --> 00:13:54,834 with her right arm stretched above her head. 187 00:13:55,999 --> 00:13:59,999 The body was badly decomposed, especially about the upper torso. 188 00:14:01,834 --> 00:14:05,998 Around Miss Walters' head was the remains of a cloth gag 189 00:14:05,999 --> 00:14:08,999 tied in a knot near her right ear... 190 00:14:10,501 --> 00:14:14,998 ..with another piece of cloth wedged between her teeth. 191 00:14:14,999 --> 00:14:18,999 The body was stabbed 14 times about the neck and chest. 192 00:14:19,999 --> 00:14:22,998 One of the wounds cut hard into the spine 193 00:14:22,999 --> 00:14:25,559 and would have paralysed the victim if she was alive at the time. 194 00:14:26,834 --> 00:14:28,998 Miss Walters' jeans were fastened at the top 195 00:14:28,999 --> 00:14:31,998 but the lower four buttons were undone. 196 00:14:31,999 --> 00:14:33,833 There was no underwear on the body. 197 00:14:33,834 --> 00:14:34,999 Bones! Bones! 198 00:14:45,501 --> 00:14:49,999 Caroline Clarke's body, like Miss Walters', was found lying face down. 199 00:14:50,999 --> 00:14:53,998 The victim was stabbed once in the middle of the back 200 00:14:53,999 --> 00:14:57,500 and a maroon jumper was found tied around her head. 201 00:14:57,501 --> 00:15:00,999 Miss Clarke had been shot 10 times in the skull. 202 00:15:24,999 --> 00:15:26,998 No! NO! 203 00:15:26,999 --> 00:15:28,998 No! No! Gill... Gill.. 204 00:15:28,999 --> 00:15:31,998 No! No! No! 205 00:15:31,999 --> 00:15:32,998 No! Shh! Shh! 206 00:15:32,999 --> 00:15:35,000 Gill... No! 207 00:16:12,289 --> 00:16:14,790 Neil. Hey there, mate. 208 00:16:14,957 --> 00:16:16,457 How are ya? Good, good. 209 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,550 Yeah, thanks for letting me come down. 210 00:16:17,651 --> 00:16:20,318 You know, I did promise the parents I'd ask around for them. 211 00:16:20,319 --> 00:16:22,818 Yeah, of course. Of course, mate. How you doing? You OK now? 212 00:16:22,819 --> 00:16:25,652 Yeah, yeah, it's all done with. Good. Bob? 213 00:16:28,651 --> 00:16:30,651 Detective Senior Constable Paul Gordon. 214 00:16:30,652 --> 00:16:33,485 G'day, mate. Bob Godden. Paul. 215 00:16:33,486 --> 00:16:35,650 You know what the forest blokes call this place? 216 00:16:35,651 --> 00:16:37,650 Executioner's drop. Oh. 217 00:16:37,651 --> 00:16:39,650 Well, don't go telling the press guys that. 218 00:16:39,651 --> 00:16:41,651 Oh, yeah, those pricks - they know already. 219 00:16:42,651 --> 00:16:44,651 What was that? Pistol club. 220 00:16:46,486 --> 00:16:48,650 Have you been up there? Yeah, they know nothing. 221 00:16:48,651 --> 00:16:50,485 Never heard nothing, never seen nothing. 222 00:16:50,486 --> 00:16:51,650 It's like fucking Hogan's Heroes. 223 00:16:51,651 --> 00:16:53,651 Have you fellas worked out what happened here? 224 00:16:53,651 --> 00:16:57,651 Oh, look, the best we can surmise is that the killer, or killers, 225 00:16:57,652 --> 00:17:00,651 parked back there and walked them up on the fire trail. 226 00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:08,650 There were cigarettes found. How many butts, Bob? 227 00:17:08,651 --> 00:17:10,111 Six. Royalties. 228 00:17:15,651 --> 00:17:18,650 You think the killer was a smoker. It's either him or Caroline. 229 00:17:18,651 --> 00:17:21,650 Joanne Walters didn't smoke. What about all their gear? 230 00:17:21,651 --> 00:17:23,318 Packs, sleeping bags. 231 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:25,650 He would have got rid of them, if he had any sense. 232 00:17:25,651 --> 00:17:28,651 We think Caroline was shot there... 233 00:17:30,819 --> 00:17:34,650 Help me, please! Help me, please! 234 00:17:34,651 --> 00:17:35,650 Please... 235 00:17:35,651 --> 00:17:38,651 ..and then he dragged her body all the way down there... 236 00:17:39,651 --> 00:17:40,650 ..and covered it up. 237 00:17:40,651 --> 00:17:43,319 Like he was ashamed. Or he didn't want to get caught. 238 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:46,650 Poor girls. 239 00:17:46,651 --> 00:17:48,651 What a place to die. 240 00:17:54,651 --> 00:17:57,351 - Ivan? - Mm? 241 00:17:57,379 --> 00:17:59,651 Ivan, where's that camera that used to be in the lounge? 242 00:18:01,651 --> 00:18:03,651 It's just in the drawer. 243 00:18:03,652 --> 00:18:06,650 Yeah, Stace had her baby. I want to take some pictures. 244 00:18:06,651 --> 00:18:07,651 OK. 245 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:16,651 Hi. 246 00:18:22,651 --> 00:18:25,319 You're a good-lookin' bloke, Ivan. 247 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:28,651 Am I? Mm-hm. 248 00:18:34,651 --> 00:18:36,651 You know the girls like you, don't you? 249 00:18:38,651 --> 00:18:41,650 It's 'cause you're polite, you open doors for them and stuff. 250 00:18:41,651 --> 00:18:44,986 You should get out more. I get out. 251 00:18:46,651 --> 00:18:49,486 You should come to the movies with me tonight. 252 00:18:50,651 --> 00:18:53,485 I don't go on dates with me sister. 253 00:18:53,486 --> 00:18:55,650 It's not a date. 254 00:18:55,651 --> 00:18:58,650 Come to the movies with me tonight. 255 00:18:58,651 --> 00:19:00,651 I've got a surprise for you. 256 00:19:33,651 --> 00:19:35,650 They're trying to find out who did it. 257 00:19:35,651 --> 00:19:39,651 No... The detectives, they're very good, Mr Walters. 258 00:19:40,651 --> 00:19:41,651 Yeah. 259 00:19:42,651 --> 00:19:46,486 Well, it's... it's not really my case, so... 260 00:19:47,986 --> 00:19:50,651 No, I will, I'll give them a call. 261 00:19:51,651 --> 00:19:53,651 OK. Goodbye. 262 00:20:32,651 --> 00:20:34,651 I'll just go get the car. OK. 263 00:20:36,651 --> 00:20:39,650 I'm sorry, I forgot your name. Shirley said it so quick. 264 00:20:39,651 --> 00:20:41,985 Oh, it's alright. Chalinder. Chalinder, right. 265 00:20:41,986 --> 00:20:44,651 You know I work with Shirley. Yeah, she said that. 266 00:20:45,651 --> 00:20:46,650 Look... 267 00:20:46,651 --> 00:20:50,650 ..if I'd known what this movie was like, I would never have taken you. 268 00:20:50,651 --> 00:20:53,650 I...feel bad about it. I'm sorry. 269 00:20:53,651 --> 00:20:54,650 Oh, that's OK. 270 00:20:54,651 --> 00:20:57,650 It was a bit... surprising. 271 00:20:57,651 --> 00:20:59,650 It was, yeah. 272 00:20:59,651 --> 00:21:01,985 Do you go to the movies a lot? Oh, when I can. 273 00:21:01,986 --> 00:21:03,651 Right. 274 00:21:04,651 --> 00:21:06,651 Do you? Sure. 275 00:21:07,651 --> 00:21:10,650 You know, if you wanted to, we could maybe go 276 00:21:10,651 --> 00:21:12,650 and see a better one some night. 277 00:21:12,651 --> 00:21:15,319 Yeah. That'd be nice. 278 00:21:16,651 --> 00:21:17,651 Good. 279 00:21:21,111 --> 00:21:23,818 Over the past weeks, over 100 police have been involved 280 00:21:23,819 --> 00:21:26,651 in a detailed search of the Belanglo State Forest. 281 00:21:27,651 --> 00:21:29,650 It is a huge area. 282 00:21:29,651 --> 00:21:31,985 Though we've found a number of leads, 283 00:21:31,986 --> 00:21:34,650 there are no definite suspects at this point. 284 00:21:34,651 --> 00:21:36,650 But, thankfully, 285 00:21:36,651 --> 00:21:38,650 we're also very confident 286 00:21:38,651 --> 00:21:41,650 that there are no more bodies in the forest 287 00:21:41,651 --> 00:21:43,650 and, therefore, at this point we will be 288 00:21:43,651 --> 00:21:45,051 suspending the search indefinitely. 289 00:22:00,651 --> 00:22:03,651 They haven't found 'em all. There's more bodies. 290 00:22:05,651 --> 00:22:07,650 What the hell would you know? 291 00:22:07,651 --> 00:22:11,651 Why don't you call the cops and tell them if you know so much, mate? 292 00:22:12,651 --> 00:22:14,651 Come on, Des. We gotta get back to work. 293 00:22:20,651 --> 00:22:22,650 Did you hear what he was saying? 294 00:22:22,651 --> 00:22:24,650 Oh, it's just Richard. 295 00:22:24,651 --> 00:22:26,650 He said there's more bodies out there, Des. 296 00:22:26,651 --> 00:22:28,986 Yeah, he always talks shit when he's stoned. 297 00:23:25,819 --> 00:23:28,651 Fuck. 298 00:23:46,651 --> 00:23:48,650 So, what were you doing all the way out here? 299 00:23:48,651 --> 00:23:50,650 To be honest, I thought you blokes stopped looking too soon 300 00:23:50,651 --> 00:23:51,650 after those first girls were found. 301 00:23:51,651 --> 00:23:53,318 So, what were you looking for, Bruce? 302 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:55,650 Evidence. I was just trying to help. 303 00:23:55,651 --> 00:23:57,650 So, why did you take the skull with you? 304 00:23:57,651 --> 00:23:59,652 I didn't think anyone would believe me if I didn't. 305 00:24:02,651 --> 00:24:03,891 Here. Just come this way, mate. 306 00:24:07,651 --> 00:24:08,985 You know who it is? 307 00:24:08,986 --> 00:24:10,650 Yeah, Andy's pretty sure it's the Everist girl. 308 00:24:10,651 --> 00:24:12,651 Went missing after the Newcastle earthquake. 309 00:24:16,651 --> 00:24:18,650 Then that's the boy that was with her - James Gibson? 310 00:24:18,651 --> 00:24:20,651 They think so. 311 00:24:23,651 --> 00:24:24,819 Neil... 312 00:24:26,651 --> 00:24:28,651 ..we've got bodies in here from 1989... 313 00:24:29,651 --> 00:24:31,691 ..and the English girls that went missing last year. 314 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:34,650 It's the same guy. 315 00:24:34,651 --> 00:24:36,818 Those girls were less than a kilometre away, Bob. 316 00:24:36,819 --> 00:24:38,651 Now, come on, Neil, it's not your fault. 317 00:24:38,652 --> 00:24:41,650 I mean, 1,000 men could search this area and not find anything. 318 00:24:41,651 --> 00:24:43,651 And a fucking potter found it on his day off. 319 00:24:44,652 --> 00:24:46,650 I called the search off too early, Bob. 320 00:24:46,651 --> 00:24:48,652 I knew there were more bodies here. I knew it. 321 00:24:50,651 --> 00:24:52,486 It's not your fault. 322 00:24:53,651 --> 00:24:56,152 The remains of James Gibson and Deborah Everist 323 00:24:56,153 --> 00:24:58,650 were found just 600 metres from 324 00:24:58,651 --> 00:25:01,818 where the bodies of Caroline Clarke and Joanne Walters were discovered 325 00:25:01,819 --> 00:25:03,650 13 months ago. 326 00:25:03,651 --> 00:25:06,650 Both young Victorians died from multiple stab wounds 327 00:25:06,651 --> 00:25:08,650 and there are signs that Miss Everist had been hogtied 328 00:25:08,651 --> 00:25:09,652 with her own tights. 329 00:25:09,652 --> 00:25:12,652 The police have admitted similarities between the two crime scenes 330 00:25:12,653 --> 00:25:15,650 and will start re-examining missing persons cases 331 00:25:15,651 --> 00:25:16,652 from the last five years. 332 00:25:16,652 --> 00:25:20,153 And today, the police conceded that the disappearance of 333 00:25:20,154 --> 00:25:24,650 German backpackers Simone Schmidl, Anja Habschied and Gabor Neugebauer 334 00:25:24,651 --> 00:25:27,650 will now be included in the investigation. 335 00:25:27,651 --> 00:25:30,650 None of the young Germans have been seen since 1991. 336 00:25:30,651 --> 00:25:32,650 Gabor's parents flew to Australia 337 00:25:32,651 --> 00:25:34,650 and appeared on Stan Grant's Real Life... 338 00:25:34,651 --> 00:25:36,650 I'll bet there's lots of bodies out there. 339 00:25:36,651 --> 00:25:38,651 Dozens of 'em. 340 00:25:39,651 --> 00:25:42,651 In response to the massive public outcry at the discovery of new bodies, 341 00:25:42,652 --> 00:25:45,650 Police Minister Terry Griffiths and Commissioner Tony Lauer 342 00:25:45,651 --> 00:25:48,650 announced today the creation of a task force 343 00:25:48,651 --> 00:25:51,650 to investigate the murders at the Belanglo State Forest. 344 00:25:51,651 --> 00:25:53,651 You look nice. 345 00:25:54,651 --> 00:25:55,650 You ready? 346 00:25:55,651 --> 00:25:57,486 Superintendent Clive Small, 347 00:25:57,486 --> 00:26:00,651 one of New South Wales' ardest-working and most experienced officers 348 00:26:00,652 --> 00:26:02,652 has been appointed to lead the task force. 349 00:26:04,651 --> 00:26:05,651 Clive. 350 00:26:05,651 --> 00:26:07,651 They want 20 investigators on this full-time. 351 00:26:07,652 --> 00:26:09,650 Bob Godden and Neil Birse, they'll stay. 352 00:26:09,651 --> 00:26:11,651 Can we get some blokes who helped with the Granny Killer? 353 00:26:11,651 --> 00:26:13,652 Yeah. Now, I need D's who can handle the long haul, alright? 354 00:26:13,653 --> 00:26:15,651 I want you as my number two. 355 00:26:15,651 --> 00:26:17,651 You'll have the most high-profile police job in Australia. Right. 356 00:26:17,652 --> 00:26:20,650 Unless we get a breakthrough, we could be on this for years. 357 00:26:20,651 --> 00:26:21,650 Yep, right again. 358 00:26:21,651 --> 00:26:24,650 Whoever did this, Clive, has had years to cover his tracks. 359 00:26:24,651 --> 00:26:27,650 We may never be able to catch him. Tell me something I don't know. 360 00:26:27,651 --> 00:26:29,319 Everyone will blame you if we don't. 361 00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:31,650 Yep, I know. If we fail, there goes my career. 362 00:26:31,651 --> 00:26:33,651 So we'd better not muck it up. 363 00:27:06,651 --> 00:27:09,650 Paul? Neil Birse. 364 00:27:09,651 --> 00:27:12,751 Neil. Hey. How are you? 365 00:27:12,837 --> 00:27:14,472 You alright? You sound a bit... 366 00:27:14,529 --> 00:27:18,193 Yeah, sorry, mate, you've just caught me eating a sandwich. 367 00:27:18,194 --> 00:27:19,740 Look, I've got some good news, mate. 368 00:27:19,740 --> 00:27:22,439 We're setting up a task force to look into those kids' murders. 369 00:27:22,439 --> 00:27:25,194 We'd like you on it. You're shitting me. 370 00:27:25,195 --> 00:27:28,194 No. Can you get down to Bowral today, as soon as? 371 00:27:28,195 --> 00:27:32,194 Yeah. No. Yeah, I... I... Yeah, no worries. 372 00:27:43,194 --> 00:27:44,862 Whoa. You alright? 373 00:27:45,935 --> 00:27:49,099 Task Force Air is what we will be known as. 374 00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:51,000 Now... 375 00:27:51,028 --> 00:27:52,028 Sorry I'm late. I just... 376 00:27:53,028 --> 00:27:54,695 Bob, this task force is no reflection 377 00:27:54,696 --> 00:27:56,027 on what you and Neil have done. 378 00:27:56,028 --> 00:27:57,695 You've eliminated dozens of suspects, 379 00:27:57,696 --> 00:27:59,196 but I've been directed to put a great deal more resources 380 00:27:59,196 --> 00:28:01,027 into the investigation. 381 00:28:01,028 --> 00:28:04,195 Now, our first task will be to consolidate all the information 382 00:28:04,196 --> 00:28:06,529 gathered so far on the four murders 383 00:28:06,530 --> 00:28:09,027 and to review any possible connections between them 384 00:28:09,028 --> 00:28:10,027 and other missing persons. 385 00:28:10,028 --> 00:28:11,027 Rod? 386 00:28:11,028 --> 00:28:13,027 I've compiled a list of 43 people 387 00:28:13,028 --> 00:28:15,027 who fit the brief of potential victims, 388 00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:16,027 who could still be out there. 389 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:19,027 I don't know if they are or aren't related to this, but they could be. 390 00:28:19,028 --> 00:28:21,027 And that number is never to be released to the press. 391 00:28:21,028 --> 00:28:22,027 This is a priority. 392 00:28:22,028 --> 00:28:24,195 There will be one voice relaying all information, 393 00:28:24,196 --> 00:28:26,028 so nobody speaks to the press but me. 394 00:28:26,029 --> 00:28:28,027 Is that clear? Yes, boss. 395 00:28:28,028 --> 00:28:30,529 - Is that clear? - Yes, sir. 396 00:28:30,530 --> 00:28:33,027 Good. Alright, Neil, Bob, show the boys where to start. 397 00:28:33,028 --> 00:28:36,027 How you going, mate? Mark Camenzuli. Paul. Hi. Hi. 398 00:28:36,028 --> 00:28:38,028 Hi, Neil. Hi. 399 00:28:39,028 --> 00:28:41,028 Superintendent Small? Hi. 400 00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:43,027 Detective Paul Gordon. 401 00:28:43,028 --> 00:28:46,529 I just wanted to say, it's a real pleasure to meet you, sir, 402 00:28:46,530 --> 00:28:48,027 and I want to let you know 403 00:28:48,028 --> 00:28:50,027 I'm ready for anything you want to throw my way. 404 00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:51,529 Yeah. Terrific. Terrific. 405 00:28:51,530 --> 00:28:53,027 Go and get some coffees for the team, will you? 406 00:28:53,028 --> 00:28:55,027 Take him with you. Just flat whites all around. 407 00:28:55,028 --> 00:28:57,027 Oh, and some Danish. 408 00:28:57,028 --> 00:28:59,108 Very good patisserie just down the road, on the left. 409 00:29:02,028 --> 00:29:04,027 Paul. 410 00:29:04,028 --> 00:29:07,028 Yes. Alright. Yep. 411 00:29:13,363 --> 00:29:16,027 You tasting that? What? 412 00:29:16,028 --> 00:29:18,027 You've got your head so far up Small's arse 413 00:29:18,028 --> 00:29:20,027 even I'm tasting his shit. 414 00:29:20,028 --> 00:29:21,362 I'm just... I'm just being friendly, alright? 415 00:29:21,363 --> 00:29:23,027 Yeah, look how well that turned out, mate. 416 00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:25,026 Listen, we're two of the lowest-ranked guys here. 417 00:29:25,027 --> 00:29:28,028 The shitkickers - all they want us to do is get the coffee and shut the fuck up. 418 00:29:28,028 --> 00:29:30,028 Is this your car? 419 00:29:31,028 --> 00:29:32,348 There's a parking ticket for you. 420 00:29:40,028 --> 00:29:45,028 I just want to remind you this is a loading zone. You can't park here. 421 00:30:06,028 --> 00:30:08,029 All of Joanne's photos are still missing. 422 00:30:10,028 --> 00:30:11,027 I appeal to anybody, 423 00:30:11,028 --> 00:30:14,028 even to the person who has done this terrible thing... 424 00:30:15,028 --> 00:30:17,028 ..if they could post the photos to the police. 425 00:30:18,196 --> 00:30:21,028 They're the only thing I'll have left of Joanne. 426 00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:24,529 Bob. 427 00:30:24,530 --> 00:30:27,195 Um, that was Joanne Walters' mother, Gill. 428 00:30:27,196 --> 00:30:29,027 Yes? 429 00:30:29,028 --> 00:30:30,028 Do you think the victims were robbed? 430 00:30:30,029 --> 00:30:32,027 Look, we don't think that's the case. 431 00:30:32,028 --> 00:30:34,027 Almost no property from the victims - 432 00:30:34,028 --> 00:30:36,027 backpacks, sleeping bags or tents - have been recovered. 433 00:30:36,028 --> 00:30:37,027 So we do think there's a good likelihood 434 00:30:37,028 --> 00:30:39,027 that they're still in the community. 435 00:30:39,028 --> 00:30:42,195 We'll be posting a list tomorrow of exactly what's missing. Yes? 436 00:30:42,196 --> 00:30:45,027 Sir, everyone in here's pretty bloody terrified. 437 00:30:45,028 --> 00:30:47,027 Doug's sleeping with a gun under our bed 438 00:30:47,028 --> 00:30:49,027 'cause, well, it makes sense, don't it, 439 00:30:49,028 --> 00:30:52,027 that the person responsible for this is local? 440 00:30:52,028 --> 00:30:55,027 Look, at this point, we don't think the sites were chosen at random, 441 00:30:55,028 --> 00:30:57,027 so a knowledge of the area does seem a likely assumption. 442 00:30:57,028 --> 00:30:59,027 Do you have any suspects yet? 443 00:30:59,028 --> 00:31:01,027 Look, we believe we've got a better idea of what has happened 444 00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:03,027 and where we should be going, 445 00:31:03,028 --> 00:31:04,529 so to that extent, we do think that... 446 00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:06,028 But do you have any suspects? 447 00:31:07,696 --> 00:31:10,862 None that we're prepared to share with you, Miss Kilmartin. Yes? 448 00:31:10,863 --> 00:31:13,027 Superintendent, are there any more bodies in the forest? 449 00:31:13,028 --> 00:31:14,362 He just told us fuck all. 450 00:31:14,363 --> 00:31:16,695 That's something that we are prepared to... 451 00:31:16,696 --> 00:31:18,529 That's 'cause that's all you have, right? 452 00:31:18,530 --> 00:31:21,027 Go away, Miss Kilmartin. 453 00:31:21,028 --> 00:31:23,027 As far as we know, there's absolutely no evidence that anyone 454 00:31:23,028 --> 00:31:25,028 has been abducted from the Bowral area. 455 00:31:33,028 --> 00:31:35,028 Oh, I hope your mum likes her Chrissie presents. 456 00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:37,862 Just make sure you hide 'em real well, so she doesn't find them. 457 00:31:37,863 --> 00:31:40,027 - Hi, Alex. - Hi, Cha... 458 00:31:40,028 --> 00:31:43,027 G'day. Hey, you're full of surprises. 459 00:31:43,028 --> 00:31:45,027 Full, full, full of them. Am I? 460 00:31:45,028 --> 00:31:47,027 Yeah, Shirl told me you're seeing her regular now. 461 00:31:47,028 --> 00:31:49,027 This Chilly-Chilly-Bang-Bang. 462 00:31:49,028 --> 00:31:52,027 Look, mate, you just call her Cylinder, OK? 463 00:31:52,028 --> 00:31:54,027 That way you'll be able to remember it easier. 464 00:31:54,028 --> 00:31:57,027 Yeah, well, Shirl reckons everything's alright. 465 00:31:57,028 --> 00:32:00,027 You're alright, she's alright, everything's alright. 466 00:32:00,028 --> 00:32:03,027 Yeah. We're good. Real good. 467 00:32:03,028 --> 00:32:05,028 Oh, still, I find that surprising. Why? 468 00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:08,027 Well, you never did like brown people much. 469 00:32:08,028 --> 00:32:10,028 Alex... 470 00:32:11,028 --> 00:32:14,027 ..you know, she's real nice, OK? 471 00:32:14,028 --> 00:32:16,027 Real nice. You'll find out. 472 00:32:16,028 --> 00:32:21,027 Like I said, surprising. Full, full, full of surprises. 473 00:32:21,028 --> 00:32:23,028 You know, Chalinder, we come from a huge family. 474 00:32:24,028 --> 00:32:26,696 There's 14 of us. So... 475 00:32:30,028 --> 00:32:33,027 There's always trouble, always fights, nothing's ever easy, 476 00:32:33,028 --> 00:32:35,028 nothing's ever soft, you know. 477 00:32:36,028 --> 00:32:39,028 Yeah, Ivan might not say it, but he needs you, Chalinder. 478 00:32:41,028 --> 00:32:43,028 Doesn't do so good on his own. 479 00:32:47,028 --> 00:32:49,027 They want us to use this? 480 00:32:49,028 --> 00:32:51,027 Bowral's too small. We need a command centre. 481 00:32:51,028 --> 00:32:52,362 This place doesn't even have power or phones. 482 00:32:52,363 --> 00:32:55,027 I mean, how are we supposed to track down a killer without phones. 483 00:32:55,028 --> 00:32:56,862 We'll get them in. Get some air conditioning too. 484 00:32:56,863 --> 00:32:58,028 We could be here some time. 485 00:33:04,028 --> 00:33:05,530 Uh, the toilets don't work. 486 00:33:14,028 --> 00:33:16,028 Where am I supposed to put this? 487 00:33:17,028 --> 00:33:19,027 I think we're ready to go, Clive. 488 00:33:19,028 --> 00:33:21,027 All we need now is some evidence. 489 00:33:21,028 --> 00:33:24,027 And a couple of suspects with form would be nice. 490 00:33:24,028 --> 00:33:27,027 Alright, the press, the public, 491 00:33:27,028 --> 00:33:29,027 everyone is gonna be screaming for answers, 492 00:33:29,028 --> 00:33:30,862 demanding that we catch this bloke now, 493 00:33:30,863 --> 00:33:33,027 but we will stay calm, we will do everything the right way, 494 00:33:33,028 --> 00:33:34,027 so that we don't miss anything. 495 00:33:34,028 --> 00:33:36,027 So when we do catch him, 496 00:33:36,028 --> 00:33:38,027 no lawyer will be able to get him off on appeal 497 00:33:38,028 --> 00:33:39,308 because we screwed something up. 498 00:33:40,363 --> 00:33:44,027 Now, this is where we now our killer has been - Belanglo State Forest. 499 00:33:44,028 --> 00:33:49,027 And it's where I know that he will have left some clue to his identity. 500 00:33:49,028 --> 00:33:52,027 The search area comes after five k's of pine plantation. 501 00:33:52,028 --> 00:33:54,027 Belanglo Forest itself is 3,800 hectares 502 00:33:54,028 --> 00:33:56,027 of very, very rough terrain. 503 00:33:56,028 --> 00:33:59,027 Sir, how big is a hectare? A hectare's 10,000 square metres. 504 00:33:59,028 --> 00:34:02,028 What, so 38,000 is... 38 million square metres. 505 00:34:02,029 --> 00:34:04,027 That's big. It's big. 506 00:34:04,028 --> 00:34:07,027 Ger, bring us up to speed on the gun. This is our best lead. 507 00:34:07,028 --> 00:34:08,027 Yeah, thanks, Clive. 508 00:34:08,028 --> 00:34:11,195 A year ago, I did forensics on the bullets recovered from Miss Clarke. 509 00:34:11,196 --> 00:34:15,027 All 10 casings held a distinct signature on the heel of the case. 510 00:34:15,028 --> 00:34:17,529 Combining this with the grooves found on the bullets, 511 00:34:17,530 --> 00:34:20,027 I'm fairly certain a silencer was used. 512 00:34:20,028 --> 00:34:23,529 And the good news is I was able to ascertain that the murder weapon 513 00:34:23,530 --> 00:34:27,027 is a Ruger 10/22. 514 00:34:27,028 --> 00:34:32,028 The 10/22 is self-loading, it has a 10-round rotary bolt. 515 00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:36,695 Which means the killer emptied a full magazine into Miss Clarke. 516 00:34:36,696 --> 00:34:38,028 Whoa, what's the bad news? 517 00:34:38,029 --> 00:34:42,027 Well, there are over 4.5 million of these weapons manufactured, 518 00:34:42,028 --> 00:34:45,027 and of that number, probably 50,000 are in Australia. 519 00:34:45,028 --> 00:34:49,027 It's also possible the killer put an old bolt into a new model, 520 00:34:49,028 --> 00:34:51,027 so the amount of Ruger's we're looking at, 521 00:34:51,028 --> 00:34:53,027 we have to check out maybe 100,000. 522 00:34:53,028 --> 00:34:55,362 Were any found when you checked the Clarke girl? 523 00:34:55,363 --> 00:34:58,028 All the owners we could locate in the area - about 700. 524 00:34:58,029 --> 00:35:00,027 Out of 100,000? 525 00:35:00,028 --> 00:35:02,363 That's if the Ruger was bought legally. I mean, if the killer bought it illegally... 526 00:35:02,363 --> 00:35:04,027 And this is our best lead? 527 00:35:04,028 --> 00:35:06,027 So far, Detective. 528 00:35:06,028 --> 00:35:08,362 Neil, you're gonna lead a team to follow up the Rugers. 529 00:35:08,363 --> 00:35:10,987 Yeah, I'm heading back to the pistol club tomorrow. 530 00:35:10,988 --> 00:35:13,027 I've been informed that there's a witness down there 531 00:35:13,028 --> 00:35:14,987 remembers something around the time of the murders. 532 00:35:14,988 --> 00:35:16,195 Alright, Royce, will you bring us up to speed 533 00:35:16,196 --> 00:35:18,820 on what you've put together on the four victims so far? 534 00:35:18,821 --> 00:35:20,529 Yeah. 535 00:35:20,530 --> 00:35:25,028 Joanne Walters arrived in Sydney on 4 June 1991. 536 00:35:25,028 --> 00:35:30,027 She gave her address as Victoria Street Backpackers, Kings Cross. 537 00:35:30,028 --> 00:35:34,028 I know she's somewhere. I don't know where to find the bloody thing. 538 00:35:38,363 --> 00:35:40,123 Hey, Shirl, hold that for a second, will you? 539 00:35:43,028 --> 00:35:45,027 Hey, when I developed them photos of Stace's baby, 540 00:35:45,028 --> 00:35:47,028 there were a couple at the start. 541 00:35:53,028 --> 00:35:54,028 Ah. 542 00:35:55,028 --> 00:35:58,029 Shop must have made a mistake, eh? I'll look after that. 543 00:35:59,696 --> 00:36:01,028 Oh, here it is. 544 00:36:02,363 --> 00:36:04,027 Joan... 545 00:36:04,028 --> 00:36:05,195 You got a coldie? 546 00:36:05,196 --> 00:36:08,028 Cheers. 547 00:36:09,028 --> 00:36:12,529 Here you go, Joanie. You should take this with you to Tasmania. 548 00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:15,027 Oh. Are you sure? Yeah. 549 00:36:15,028 --> 00:36:17,027 That's a good backpack. You don't want to give it that away. 550 00:36:17,028 --> 00:36:19,027 No, no. Look, a mate of mine gave it to me. 551 00:36:19,028 --> 00:36:21,027 She was heading back to New Zealand. 552 00:36:21,028 --> 00:36:25,027 She doesn't need it anymore, I don't need it, so you may as well take it. 553 00:36:25,028 --> 00:36:27,028 Oh, thanks, Ivan. 554 00:36:29,028 --> 00:36:30,196 Who wants a snag? 555 00:36:31,363 --> 00:36:33,027 They're ready. Here, bud. 556 00:36:33,028 --> 00:36:35,027 Throw it at him. 557 00:36:35,028 --> 00:36:37,027 From what we've been able to ascertain so far, 558 00:36:37,028 --> 00:36:41,027 the first victims found went missing just after Good Friday, 559 00:36:41,028 --> 00:36:44,027 Deborah Everist and James Gibson just after Christmas. 560 00:36:44,028 --> 00:36:47,027 Well, the killer's on holiday. Or maybe on a break from work. 561 00:36:47,028 --> 00:36:48,027 He might be a religious nut. 562 00:36:48,028 --> 00:36:50,987 You know, there could be some kind of satanic element to all this. 563 00:36:50,988 --> 00:36:53,529 Why do you think that? Builds fires. 564 00:36:53,530 --> 00:36:57,027 It's a fucking camp fire, Paul. There's nothing satanic about it. 565 00:36:57,028 --> 00:36:59,027 The positioning of all four bodies is the same. 566 00:36:59,028 --> 00:37:02,027 Each victim was found lying down, covered by brush, 567 00:37:02,028 --> 00:37:03,695 beside a log or a rock. 568 00:37:03,696 --> 00:37:05,195 Now, as Detective Gordon quite correctly points out, 569 00:37:05,196 --> 00:37:08,027 there was evidence of a fire at both sites. 570 00:37:08,028 --> 00:37:11,027 So maybe our bloke camped out. 571 00:37:11,028 --> 00:37:14,695 Now, the main difference between the two sites is at the later one, 572 00:37:14,696 --> 00:37:19,027 Clarke and Walters, looks like he stayed a bit longer, 573 00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:21,530 like he's growing more comfortable with what he's doing. 574 00:37:53,028 --> 00:37:55,028 That was quite funny... Hey, I was using... 575 00:37:58,028 --> 00:38:00,028 What? 576 00:38:14,147 --> 00:38:16,525 Premier John Fahey announced the reward today 577 00:38:16,570 --> 00:38:19,901 as 300 extra police were called in to widen the search 578 00:38:19,902 --> 00:38:21,901 of the Belanglo State Forest. 579 00:38:21,902 --> 00:38:25,902 Mr Fahey vowed to bring the killer or killers to justice, 580 00:38:26,017 --> 00:38:30,017 announcing a massive reward for public information. 581 00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:35,016 Thanks for talking to us, Mr Milat. No worries. 582 00:38:35,017 --> 00:38:37,018 Uh, that reward still on offer, mate? 583 00:38:37,018 --> 00:38:40,016 Yes. Yes, it is. 584 00:38:40,017 --> 00:38:42,809 Now, we've been informed you saw something at the pistol club. 585 00:38:42,810 --> 00:38:47,016 I did. Uh... it was about four o'clock on the Sunday. 586 00:38:47,017 --> 00:38:49,016 Do you remember what date? 587 00:38:49,017 --> 00:38:51,016 April 26 last year. 588 00:38:51,017 --> 00:38:52,417 Anzac weekend. I made a note of it. 589 00:38:53,185 --> 00:38:57,016 I left the pistol club with Bill Ayers. 590 00:38:57,017 --> 00:39:01,016 As we was getting close to the highway, I noticed two cars - 591 00:39:01,017 --> 00:39:04,016 one was a Ford Falcon, 1980, chocolate brown. 592 00:39:04,017 --> 00:39:08,016 It was being followed by a four-wheel drive, a two-tone. 593 00:39:08,017 --> 00:39:11,016 Beige colour on the bottom, brown on top. 594 00:39:11,017 --> 00:39:13,016 When I looked in the cabin of the Falcon, 595 00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:17,016 first thing I seen was the driver was a tall person. 596 00:39:17,017 --> 00:39:21,017 I guess about 100 kilos. 597 00:39:21,017 --> 00:39:24,016 He had a big nose and Adam's apple 598 00:39:24,017 --> 00:39:26,016 and his hair was an orangey-red colour, 599 00:39:26,017 --> 00:39:29,016 which gave me the impression it may have been dyed. 600 00:39:29,017 --> 00:39:33,017 The male person sitting next to the driver was holding a shotgun. 601 00:39:33,017 --> 00:39:35,016 .410 model. 602 00:39:35,017 --> 00:39:38,016 In the rear seat, I seen a female person 603 00:39:38,017 --> 00:39:42,016 who I would describe as being in her 20s. 604 00:39:42,017 --> 00:39:45,016 She had what appeared to be a gag wrapped around her head 605 00:39:45,017 --> 00:39:47,016 and across her mouth. 606 00:39:47,017 --> 00:39:50,184 As we passed the Falcon, approached the four-wheel drive, 607 00:39:50,185 --> 00:39:52,017 I seen two male persons in the front, 608 00:39:52,018 --> 00:39:55,684 a male person in the back, seated next to another female person. 609 00:39:55,685 --> 00:39:57,518 She had a gag across her mouth too. 610 00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,016 Honey-coloured material. 611 00:40:00,017 --> 00:40:04,977 I would estimate she was in her 20s, Caucasian as well. 612 00:40:06,017 --> 00:40:12,016 She appeared dumpier than the female I'd seen in the Falcon, 613 00:40:12,017 --> 00:40:17,017 with a Prince Valiant hairstyle which was cut collar-length. 614 00:40:20,017 --> 00:40:23,684 You saw two terrified women with gags on their mouths 615 00:40:23,685 --> 00:40:26,017 and you didn't report it to the police? 616 00:40:28,017 --> 00:40:31,016 I'm reporting it now. At the time. 617 00:40:31,017 --> 00:40:34,016 I was, uh... of the opinion it weren't serious, 618 00:40:34,017 --> 00:40:37,684 just some young blokes taking girls into the forest to have a good time. 619 00:40:37,685 --> 00:40:39,016 A good time? 620 00:40:39,017 --> 00:40:41,016 Yeah, from my experience I'm aware of the countless times 621 00:40:41,017 --> 00:40:44,017 young men and women are observed driving around in the forest 622 00:40:44,018 --> 00:40:47,352 looking for somewhere they can... have a good time. 623 00:40:49,017 --> 00:40:51,017 I didn't think this were no different. 624 00:40:57,017 --> 00:40:59,016 But I did think it was strange enough 625 00:40:59,017 --> 00:41:01,016 to write the rego number down 626 00:41:01,017 --> 00:41:02,016 on a piece of cardboard. 627 00:41:02,017 --> 00:41:04,016 You wrote down the rego? 628 00:41:04,017 --> 00:41:05,016 But I lost it. 629 00:41:05,017 --> 00:41:07,017 But from memory, it was... 630 00:41:08,017 --> 00:41:10,809 ..ALD... 631 00:41:10,810 --> 00:41:13,017 ..537. 632 00:41:14,017 --> 00:41:16,017 Or ALO. 633 00:41:17,017 --> 00:41:19,016 Or A... uh, CL. 634 00:41:19,017 --> 00:41:21,017 Really? Yeah. 635 00:41:25,185 --> 00:41:28,017 Are these the two girls that you saw, Mr Milat? 636 00:41:31,685 --> 00:41:33,017 Um... 637 00:41:34,017 --> 00:41:35,809 Well, uh, yeah, they are. 638 00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:38,017 But one appeared thinner and one heavier, but... 639 00:41:40,017 --> 00:41:42,017 ..yeah, I think it's them. 640 00:41:45,352 --> 00:41:48,016 Why'd he wait 18 months to remember all this? 641 00:41:48,017 --> 00:41:50,016 He didn't say. Look, he could be a nutter, Clive. 642 00:41:50,017 --> 00:41:52,016 It wouldn't be the first one we've had. 643 00:41:52,017 --> 00:41:55,016 Right, so, he says he saw the girls on April 26. 644 00:41:55,017 --> 00:41:57,016 What's the last confirmed sighting? 18th. 645 00:41:57,017 --> 00:41:59,016 Does the driver confirm his story? 646 00:41:59,017 --> 00:42:01,016 Oh, look, Bill Ayers confirms 647 00:42:01,017 --> 00:42:04,016 that he drove Alex Milat from the pistol club. 648 00:42:04,017 --> 00:42:07,016 He saw some cars but that's all he remembers. 649 00:42:07,017 --> 00:42:09,016 Hm. And what do you think? 650 00:42:09,017 --> 00:42:13,016 Two cars travelling at 20 k's, a couple of seconds at most, 651 00:42:13,017 --> 00:42:15,016 all that detail? 652 00:42:15,017 --> 00:42:17,016 Prince Valiant haircut, the colour of the gags. 653 00:42:17,017 --> 00:42:19,016 I think it's bullshit, Clive. 654 00:42:19,017 --> 00:42:20,352 Why would he make it up? 655 00:42:24,017 --> 00:42:26,185 Alright. Double-check the information. 656 00:42:32,185 --> 00:42:34,017 G'day, sweetheart. What's going on? 657 00:42:39,017 --> 00:42:40,352 Hey, Rich. 658 00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:44,684 What's up? You heard about Alex? 659 00:42:44,685 --> 00:42:46,016 He's talking to them cops. 660 00:42:46,017 --> 00:42:49,976 He's saying some shit about guys and girls in the forest. 661 00:42:49,977 --> 00:42:51,809 Yeah. And? 662 00:42:51,810 --> 00:42:53,809 Well, what's he saying that for? 663 00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:57,016 Well, mate, how the hell would I know? 664 00:42:57,017 --> 00:43:00,016 You know, our brother is a bullshit artist, 665 00:43:00,017 --> 00:43:02,016 he thinks there's a bit of money in it 666 00:43:02,017 --> 00:43:04,016 and he's probably trying to get in on a reward. 667 00:43:04,017 --> 00:43:08,351 He'll crap on, mate. He'll crap on till they pay him to shut up. 668 00:43:08,352 --> 00:43:10,016 Don't worry about it. 669 00:43:10,017 --> 00:43:12,016 You were there. He said it - "There are more bodies out there." 670 00:43:12,017 --> 00:43:14,016 "The Germans is still out there." He SAID that. 671 00:43:14,017 --> 00:43:16,016 Yeah, but the papers said that too. 672 00:43:16,017 --> 00:43:18,016 Yeah, but I've been shooting with him and his brothers. 673 00:43:18,017 --> 00:43:19,016 I'm telling you, they're crazy. 674 00:43:19,017 --> 00:43:22,016 Hey, you thinking of calling someone? 675 00:43:22,017 --> 00:43:24,017 What?! Four people are dead. 676 00:43:25,017 --> 00:43:27,016 Well, come on, let's go. Let's do it now. 677 00:43:27,017 --> 00:43:30,017 Fuck, Janine! It's the right thing to do. 678 00:43:31,017 --> 00:43:32,017 I'm doing it. 679 00:43:38,017 --> 00:43:40,016 Good afternoon. Crime Stoppers. 680 00:43:40,017 --> 00:43:43,016 Yeah, uh, this guy who used to be at my work, 681 00:43:43,017 --> 00:43:46,016 he talked about them dead kids, the backpackers. 682 00:43:46,017 --> 00:43:49,016 Well, he said there's more bodies out there, 683 00:43:49,017 --> 00:43:51,016 and his family, they're gun-crazy. 684 00:43:51,017 --> 00:43:54,017 I have been shooting with his family and, I'm telling you, they're f... 685 00:43:54,018 --> 00:43:56,016 Shooting? 686 00:43:56,017 --> 00:43:58,016 I mean shooting at trees and roos, and not... 687 00:43:58,017 --> 00:44:00,016 Oh. 688 00:44:00,017 --> 00:44:04,016 Look, anyway, his name's Richard, his last name's Milat. 689 00:44:04,017 --> 00:44:08,016 Can I have your name, please, sir? My name? Uh... 690 00:44:08,017 --> 00:44:10,017 What the...? 691 00:44:11,017 --> 00:44:12,017 What?! 692 00:44:13,017 --> 00:44:16,016 Thanks very much for having us, Alex. We really appreciate it. 693 00:44:16,017 --> 00:44:17,016 Yeah. 694 00:44:17,017 --> 00:44:20,016 Um... Look, do you remember why I called you? 695 00:44:20,017 --> 00:44:22,016 What we wanted to talk about? Yeah. 696 00:44:22,017 --> 00:44:25,016 You wanted to ask me a few questions about the statement I gave you. 697 00:44:25,017 --> 00:44:27,016 That's right. We're just tying up some loose ends, really. 698 00:44:27,017 --> 00:44:29,851 We just wonder whether there might be something else 699 00:44:29,852 --> 00:44:32,016 that you might remember. 700 00:44:32,017 --> 00:44:35,017 No, mate. You blokes have got the statement I gave you. 701 00:44:37,017 --> 00:44:38,016 Nothing's changed since then. 702 00:44:38,017 --> 00:44:41,016 OK. Nothing else about the car that you saw in the bush? 703 00:44:41,017 --> 00:44:43,016 Perhaps the numberplate, maybe. 704 00:44:43,017 --> 00:44:46,017 No. Hmm, nothing like that, no. 705 00:44:49,017 --> 00:44:52,016 Uh... So, are you a shooter, Alex? 706 00:44:52,017 --> 00:44:54,016 Yeah, I like to hunt. 707 00:44:54,017 --> 00:44:56,016 Ah, well, that's good, actually, 708 00:44:56,017 --> 00:44:58,016 because we're actually doing general inquiries 709 00:44:58,017 --> 00:45:01,016 about weapons and ammunition at the moment. 710 00:45:01,017 --> 00:45:04,017 General inquiries, eh? Yeah. Is that OK? 711 00:45:08,017 --> 00:45:10,016 Shed's out the back. Thanks very much. 712 00:45:10,017 --> 00:45:12,017 Yeah. 713 00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:17,852 I've got all the permits for these. 714 00:45:19,017 --> 00:45:21,016 So, what do you shoot, Alex? 715 00:45:21,017 --> 00:45:22,352 Pigs. 716 00:45:34,017 --> 00:45:36,017 Keep your eyes open, guys. 717 00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:39,017 Go slow now. 718 00:45:56,017 --> 00:45:58,016 Nothing. 719 00:45:58,017 --> 00:46:01,016 After three weeks. How's it possible to find nothing out here? 720 00:46:01,017 --> 00:46:03,684 Well, we went all the way to the Tree Cave fire trail. 721 00:46:03,685 --> 00:46:06,016 Should we re-search the same areas Neil and Bob did last year? 722 00:46:06,017 --> 00:46:08,016 No, no, stick to the grid. 723 00:46:08,017 --> 00:46:09,351 How much longer will that take? 724 00:46:09,352 --> 00:46:11,351 A day, maybe two, depending on the weather. 725 00:46:11,352 --> 00:46:13,016 Right. What do we do after that? 726 00:46:13,017 --> 00:46:15,016 Well, if nothing comes up, we'll scale back the search. 727 00:46:15,017 --> 00:46:17,016 I'll prepare a statement for the media. 728 00:46:17,017 --> 00:46:18,352 Yep. Stating? 729 00:46:20,017 --> 00:46:22,016 That the task force is satisfied 730 00:46:22,017 --> 00:46:24,016 there are no more bodies in the forest. 731 00:46:24,017 --> 00:46:25,852 What else can we say, Rod? 732 00:46:32,017 --> 00:46:33,519 Here's a press release. Alright. 733 00:46:39,017 --> 00:46:42,017 Alright. That's good to go, Rod. Here we go, Sarge. 734 00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:45,017 Thank you. 735 00:46:46,185 --> 00:46:48,017 Rod? 736 00:46:51,017 --> 00:46:53,017 Ladies and gentlemen... 737 00:46:56,852 --> 00:46:58,017 ..we've found another body. 738 00:47:09,042 --> 00:47:11,227 Police have identified the fifth body 739 00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:13,300 found in the Belanglo State Forest 740 00:47:13,391 --> 00:47:16,391 as that of missing German tourist Simone Schmidl. 741 00:47:16,391 --> 00:47:18,391 The search of the Belanglo State Forest 742 00:47:18,392 --> 00:47:20,391 was winding down yesterday 743 00:47:20,392 --> 00:47:22,559 when more human remains were found in the area. 744 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,392 Two more bodies have been found 745 00:47:24,393 --> 00:47:26,894 in the Belanglo State Forest near Bowral. 746 00:47:26,894 --> 00:47:29,391 The bodies are those of missing German backpackers 747 00:47:29,392 --> 00:47:32,391 Anja Habschied and Gabor Neugebauer, 748 00:47:32,392 --> 00:47:37,391 who disappeared from a Kings Cross youth hostel almost two years ago. 749 00:47:37,392 --> 00:47:40,391 They bring the grim tally of bodies in the backpackers graveyard 750 00:47:40,392 --> 00:47:41,894 to seven. 751 00:48:00,227 --> 00:48:01,392 Hi. 752 00:48:03,392 --> 00:48:06,393 G'day. Hey. I got dropped off. Is that OK? 753 00:48:08,227 --> 00:48:12,392 Yeah, sure. Uh, I... I just been doing a... bit of a workout. 754 00:48:14,894 --> 00:48:16,393 Handsome man. 755 00:48:18,392 --> 00:48:22,391 Are you OK? Yeah, I-I'm just a bit, um... sweaty. 756 00:48:22,392 --> 00:48:24,392 I think I might go have a shower, alright? 757 00:48:24,393 --> 00:48:25,894 OK. 758 00:48:27,392 --> 00:48:30,391 Oh, it's terrible, isn't it? 759 00:48:30,392 --> 00:48:31,560 What's that? 760 00:48:32,894 --> 00:48:34,392 Just about all these kids. 761 00:48:37,393 --> 00:48:39,391 Yeah. 762 00:48:39,392 --> 00:48:42,392 Yeah, it's... horrible? 763 00:49:08,392 --> 00:49:11,392 International tourists have gone missing in Australia without a trace. 764 00:49:11,393 --> 00:49:13,391 Simone Schmidl. 765 00:49:13,392 --> 00:49:16,391 How she was killed. Police are now certain another victim... 766 00:49:16,392 --> 00:49:18,559 20-year-old Anja arrived in Australia last November. 767 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,893 The remains of James Gibson and Deborah Everist... 768 00:49:20,894 --> 00:49:23,059 Detective Gordon, do you have any idea... 769 00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:25,391 The bodies of two women found murdered near Bowral 770 00:49:25,392 --> 00:49:27,391 could be those of Caroline Clarke and Joanne Walters. 771 00:49:27,392 --> 00:49:29,392 All of Joanne's photos are still missing. 772 00:49:29,392 --> 00:49:32,392 Where is Joanne? Where is our daughter? 773 00:49:50,392 --> 00:49:52,226 Come to bed. 774 00:49:52,227 --> 00:49:53,560 I won't be long, love. 775 00:49:57,392 --> 00:50:02,392 I was always told that drinking alone in the dark is a bad sign. 776 00:50:12,392 --> 00:50:15,391 The thing is, Al, I don't know how many bodies are out there 777 00:50:15,392 --> 00:50:17,391 or if we'll ever find them. 778 00:50:17,392 --> 00:50:19,391 There could be dozens. 779 00:50:19,392 --> 00:50:22,392 Three more bodies and I think with each one, "OK, alright, alright. 780 00:50:23,392 --> 00:50:25,391 "You know, this is new information. 781 00:50:25,392 --> 00:50:27,391 "One more chance that our bloke's made a mistake, 782 00:50:27,392 --> 00:50:29,391 "left something behind that'll lead us to him." 783 00:50:29,392 --> 00:50:34,391 But that... damn forest, it's... it's given us nothing. 784 00:50:34,392 --> 00:50:35,391 It's still early days. 785 00:50:35,392 --> 00:50:38,391 Oh, darl, we've been out there over a month. 786 00:50:38,392 --> 00:50:40,893 You knew this was gonna be a hard case. 787 00:50:40,894 --> 00:50:43,391 You knew you'd made enemies in your career. 788 00:50:43,392 --> 00:50:46,060 They might be setting you up to fail with this job. 789 00:50:49,060 --> 00:50:50,393 Are you gonna let them win? 790 00:50:54,392 --> 00:50:56,391 Given the similarities at the murder sites 791 00:50:56,392 --> 00:50:58,391 and the fact that we have now recovered seven bodies, 792 00:50:58,392 --> 00:51:00,391 I do think it is fair to say that there is a serial killer at work. 793 00:51:00,392 --> 00:51:02,392 Do you think there are even more bodies in the forest? 794 00:51:02,392 --> 00:51:05,392 Can't answer that, but I can announce, in response to these new finds, 795 00:51:05,393 --> 00:51:09,391 that Task Force Air will increase by 280 on-site investigators. 796 00:51:09,392 --> 00:51:11,391 Seven teams of 40 men and women 797 00:51:11,392 --> 00:51:13,391 will commence a new search at first light tomorrow. 798 00:51:13,392 --> 00:51:15,391 We've also heard that an information hotline is being set up. 799 00:51:15,392 --> 00:51:17,391 Can you comment on that? Yes, that is correct. 800 00:51:17,392 --> 00:51:19,560 A toll-free number will commence at 5pm tomorrow 801 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,392 and run for 24 hours a day, 802 00:51:21,393 --> 00:51:24,391 and I do urge anyone with any information to please come forward. 803 00:51:24,392 --> 00:51:26,894 I can also announce, on behalf of the New South Wales Government, 804 00:51:26,894 --> 00:51:30,391 an increase in the reward to $500,000 for any information 805 00:51:30,392 --> 00:51:33,391 leading to the conviction of the killer or killers of these young people. 806 00:51:33,392 --> 00:51:36,392 $500,000? Does that make this the largest reward ever offered in New South Wales? 807 00:51:36,393 --> 00:51:40,391 Look, I know I'm not a high-flyer, OK? 808 00:51:40,392 --> 00:51:42,391 But I was a part of this from the very start. 809 00:51:42,392 --> 00:51:44,391 Yeah, I know. Then give me something. 810 00:51:44,392 --> 00:51:45,391 Let me DO something. 811 00:51:45,392 --> 00:51:47,391 Look, you just have to be patient, Paul. 812 00:51:47,392 --> 00:51:49,391 I AM being patient. No, look.... 813 00:51:49,392 --> 00:51:53,391 Look, you heard them, OK? They're setting up a hotline. 814 00:51:53,392 --> 00:51:55,391 There'll be new leads. 815 00:51:55,392 --> 00:51:59,391 Clive's expanding the investigation, so you won't be last in line. 816 00:51:59,392 --> 00:52:00,726 I'll find you something. 817 00:52:00,727 --> 00:52:03,392 I promise. Alright? 818 00:52:08,392 --> 00:52:11,559 Right, I want a running sheet for every call. 819 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,392 As soon as you hang up, I want you to log that information into a computer. 820 00:52:14,393 --> 00:52:17,391 Neil Birse and I will look at everything at the end of the day. 821 00:52:17,392 --> 00:52:18,391 We will organise a follow-up 822 00:52:18,392 --> 00:52:21,391 or we'll list it as 'no further action required'. 823 00:52:21,392 --> 00:52:23,391 Hotline starts... 824 00:52:23,392 --> 00:52:24,391 ..now. 825 00:52:24,392 --> 00:52:26,392 Task Force Air. 826 00:52:27,392 --> 00:52:28,391 Yep. 827 00:52:28,392 --> 00:52:30,391 Task Force Air. 828 00:52:30,392 --> 00:52:34,391 Task Force Air. 829 00:52:34,392 --> 00:52:35,391 Task Force Air. 830 00:52:35,392 --> 00:52:38,391 Oi, come on, answer phones. Everyone. Everyone. 831 00:52:38,392 --> 00:52:39,391 Task Force Air. 832 00:52:39,392 --> 00:52:41,893 My son has always been odd. 833 00:52:41,894 --> 00:52:43,391 I tried to ignore it, but... 834 00:52:43,392 --> 00:52:45,391 My dad gets drunk every night... 835 00:52:45,392 --> 00:52:47,391 I picked up this young man from England. 836 00:52:47,392 --> 00:52:48,392 He said he'd been shot at. Oh, great. 837 00:52:48,393 --> 00:52:50,391 I took him to the Bowral Police Station. 838 00:52:50,392 --> 00:52:52,391 There's this guy who lives on a farm here... 839 00:52:52,392 --> 00:52:54,391 Just tell me your story. He's so bloody creepy. 840 00:52:54,392 --> 00:52:57,391 M-I-L-A-T. 841 00:52:57,392 --> 00:52:59,059 It's a woman, I know it. 842 00:52:59,060 --> 00:53:00,391 She hit me over the head and enjoyed it. 843 00:53:00,392 --> 00:53:02,391 You could see it in her eyes. 844 00:53:02,392 --> 00:53:04,391 Do you have a contact number? 845 00:53:04,392 --> 00:53:07,391 I was talking to my dead mother and she said... 846 00:53:07,392 --> 00:53:09,391 He could do something like this. Treated my daughter like shit. 847 00:53:09,392 --> 00:53:11,391 ..Joanne's soul is troubled. 848 00:53:11,392 --> 00:53:13,391 She'll never rest until the killer is caught. 849 00:53:13,392 --> 00:53:16,391 They all love guns. My husband is... 850 00:53:16,392 --> 00:53:20,391 You must go out to the forest on a blue moon and follow the emu. 851 00:53:20,392 --> 00:53:22,893 The killer lives in a white house 852 00:53:22,894 --> 00:53:25,391 in a straight line from the Belanglo Forest. 853 00:53:25,392 --> 00:53:30,391 I'm a phrenologist. I read bumps on people's heads. 854 00:53:30,392 --> 00:53:34,392 It's a science. I'll read the head of any suspect you'd like me to. 855 00:53:34,393 --> 00:53:37,226 No. Thanks for your call. 856 00:53:37,227 --> 00:53:38,392 Yeah. My name is Paul Onions. 857 00:53:38,392 --> 00:53:40,392 I'm calling from Birmingham, in England. 858 00:53:42,894 --> 00:53:45,391 And I can't be stopped, you hear me?! 859 00:53:45,392 --> 00:53:48,391 Count them slow. You're never gonna catch me! 860 00:53:48,392 --> 00:53:50,391 Alright, thanks. 861 00:53:50,392 --> 00:53:54,226 So, in the first 24 hours, guess how many phone calls we received. 862 00:53:54,227 --> 00:53:56,391 Is this like a jelly bean jar? We get a prize, Clive? 863 00:53:56,392 --> 00:53:58,391 No, it's a rhetorical question, Bob, no prize. 864 00:53:58,392 --> 00:54:02,391 5,119. In 24 hours. 865 00:54:02,392 --> 00:54:05,391 Over 2,000 people were put forward as suspects last night. 2,000. 866 00:54:05,392 --> 00:54:07,391 And if we're lucky, one of them will be guilty. 867 00:54:07,392 --> 00:54:09,391 It is gonna be a problem finding him in all that. 868 00:54:09,392 --> 00:54:11,391 Well, as we see it, by the time this calms down, 869 00:54:11,392 --> 00:54:14,391 we'll have 10,000 running sheets and hundreds of thousands of new leads. 870 00:54:14,392 --> 00:54:15,893 Many of them actionable. 871 00:54:15,894 --> 00:54:18,391 So, our biggest problem is information overload 872 00:54:18,392 --> 00:54:20,391 with what is a very old and overmatched computer system. 873 00:54:20,392 --> 00:54:22,392 Where are you going with this, Clive? 874 00:54:23,392 --> 00:54:27,391 NetMap, OK? 12 new software packages. 875 00:54:27,392 --> 00:54:29,391 We link 'em up, we put everything back in the system - 876 00:54:29,392 --> 00:54:31,391 names, addresses, vehicles, times of day. 877 00:54:31,392 --> 00:54:34,391 NetMap can transform all that information 878 00:54:34,392 --> 00:54:36,391 into multidimensional graphical representations. 879 00:54:36,392 --> 00:54:38,391 So, we're gonna do everything again? Yes. 880 00:54:38,392 --> 00:54:41,391 Everything? Even our first investigation. Again? 881 00:54:41,392 --> 00:54:43,392 This NetMap, it'll make links we haven't even thought of. 882 00:54:43,393 --> 00:54:45,391 It's best to get it over with now. 883 00:54:45,392 --> 00:54:47,391 Well, how long is this gonna take us? 884 00:54:47,392 --> 00:54:48,559 It will take as long as it takes, alright? 885 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,391 This is not one of your Darlo cases. 886 00:54:50,392 --> 00:54:52,391 We're not gonna solve this one overnight. 887 00:54:52,392 --> 00:54:54,726 We need to set up an infrastructure for the long haul. 888 00:54:54,727 --> 00:54:57,226 It's not much fun, I know, but we need to be consolidating, 889 00:54:57,227 --> 00:54:58,391 we need to be organising. 890 00:54:58,392 --> 00:55:00,560 Alright? The benefits will far outweigh any delay. 891 00:55:08,392 --> 00:55:09,391 How are we supposed to follow up leads 892 00:55:09,392 --> 00:55:11,391 while we're putting all this into the computers? 893 00:55:11,392 --> 00:55:14,391 Neil, we'll just go to the archives for a few weeks, mate. 894 00:55:14,392 --> 00:55:16,392 What, to see the old bloke with the filing cabinet in his head? 895 00:55:16,392 --> 00:55:19,392 Fuck me, Bob, please. Consolidating, organising. 896 00:55:19,393 --> 00:55:23,727 I mean, come on, a new computer, it's not gonna find anyone, we are. 897 00:55:26,392 --> 00:55:28,392 I'm going back downstairs. 898 00:55:39,392 --> 00:55:42,391 Hey, Neil. How's Paul Gordon going? 899 00:55:42,392 --> 00:55:45,004 Following directives? Yes, mate. Yeah, he's good. 900 00:55:45,036 --> 00:55:46,836 Think he's a good fit for this task force? 901 00:55:46,906 --> 00:55:48,906 Well, he's working hard, Clive. 902 00:55:48,907 --> 00:55:50,905 I'm not sure he's a team player. 903 00:55:52,226 --> 00:55:53,590 The backpackers probe. 904 00:55:53,591 --> 00:55:55,090 There are growing fears tonight 905 00:55:55,127 --> 00:55:58,126 that the grim murder toll in the Belanglo Forest 906 00:55:58,127 --> 00:56:00,762 may affect Australia's reputation abroad. 907 00:56:00,838 --> 00:56:02,703 Police heading the investigation 908 00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:06,788 are appealing for the international media to act responsibly. 909 00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:09,788 A German television crew arrived in the forest today. 910 00:56:09,789 --> 00:56:12,789 Superintendent Clive Small is anxious for the murders to be kept in perspective. 911 00:56:12,790 --> 00:56:14,789 The Germans are being told 912 00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:16,788 the Sydney cannibal cut up his victims 913 00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:18,788 before cooking them on the camp fires near the bodies 914 00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:20,489 and then eating them. 915 00:56:20,508 --> 00:56:23,507 The tragedy has sparked huge media interest in Britain 916 00:56:23,508 --> 00:56:25,507 with several papers warning intending tourists 917 00:56:25,508 --> 00:56:28,310 of the potential dangers of a trip to Australia 918 00:56:28,350 --> 00:56:30,516 in light of the murders. 919 00:56:32,848 --> 00:56:35,385 Alright, I wanted you all to see this place one last time. 920 00:56:35,386 --> 00:56:37,524 Where it began, where we think it's ended for now. 921 00:56:37,525 --> 00:56:39,461 So, final thoughts, gentlemen? 922 00:56:39,462 --> 00:56:41,630 20 months since the last victim we know of was killed. 923 00:56:43,298 --> 00:56:46,462 Do we think he's stopped for good? Why would he stop? 924 00:56:46,463 --> 00:56:48,462 Could be dead. He could be in jail. 925 00:56:48,463 --> 00:56:50,462 Or he's dumping them somewhere else. 926 00:56:50,463 --> 00:56:52,463 Let's hope not. 927 00:56:53,463 --> 00:56:55,462 Anything new from Ballistics, Stu? 928 00:56:55,463 --> 00:56:57,462 Yeah, the bullets we found near Gabor, 929 00:56:57,463 --> 00:56:59,463 they match those we found near Miss Clarke. 930 00:56:59,463 --> 00:57:01,631 So, we now know the same weapon was used in both areas. 931 00:57:01,632 --> 00:57:03,463 Right, Neil, what about the new bodies - 932 00:57:03,463 --> 00:57:05,463 the Germans - anything new there? 933 00:57:05,464 --> 00:57:07,462 Similar to the others. 934 00:57:07,463 --> 00:57:09,462 There are indications of sexual interference. 935 00:57:09,463 --> 00:57:12,462 Anja's body was naked except for the halter top. 936 00:57:12,463 --> 00:57:16,462 But, you know, to me, boss, I just find it significant. 937 00:57:16,463 --> 00:57:18,462 I mean, the logs that were on Gabor, 938 00:57:18,463 --> 00:57:20,463 I just can't see one man lifting them. 939 00:57:20,464 --> 00:57:22,297 Unless he's fucking strong. 940 00:57:22,298 --> 00:57:24,462 Yeah. No, you saw yourself, Bob, it took three coppers to lift them. 941 00:57:24,463 --> 00:57:26,462 You're back on that? You think it's two killers instead of one? 942 00:57:26,463 --> 00:57:28,630 Yeah, I'm swaying that way. 943 00:57:28,631 --> 00:57:31,462 Neil, we'll just... we'll find one killer first, alright? 944 00:57:31,463 --> 00:57:33,462 We'll just see where that leads us. Boss. 945 00:57:33,463 --> 00:57:35,462 One thing that is pretty clear 946 00:57:35,463 --> 00:57:37,463 is there's been an escalation in the violence towards the victims. 947 00:57:37,464 --> 00:57:40,462 The first two were just stabbed. 948 00:57:40,463 --> 00:57:42,462 By the time he gets to these new ones and the English girls, 949 00:57:42,463 --> 00:57:44,462 they've been shot multiple times. 950 00:57:44,463 --> 00:57:48,298 Anja Habschied was on her knees. 951 00:57:49,463 --> 00:57:50,463 There. 952 00:57:52,798 --> 00:57:56,462 Killed by a single blow from a sword or a machete. 953 00:57:56,463 --> 00:57:58,964 Still no sign of her skull. 954 00:57:58,965 --> 00:58:01,797 Are we... are we sure an animal couldn't have dragged it away? 955 00:58:01,798 --> 00:58:04,462 No, forensics say too heavy. 956 00:58:04,463 --> 00:58:05,462 So, this guy took the head? 957 00:58:05,463 --> 00:58:07,462 What are we dealing with? 958 00:58:07,463 --> 00:58:10,462 I mean, how can someone not know who this guy is? 959 00:58:10,463 --> 00:58:13,462 Alright, from now on, you will all work in teams of two 960 00:58:13,463 --> 00:58:15,462 following up the leads we received from the hotline. 961 00:58:15,463 --> 00:58:17,463 It's all set up, gentlemen. 962 00:58:18,463 --> 00:58:20,463 We go after this bloke. 963 00:58:21,463 --> 00:58:23,462 Hard. 964 00:58:23,463 --> 00:58:25,964 Don't forget this place. You burn it into your memory. 965 00:58:25,965 --> 00:58:27,463 We will solve what happened. 966 00:58:28,631 --> 00:58:33,462 Sir... look, I don't know if he's in jail or if he's stopped or... 967 00:58:33,463 --> 00:58:36,462 Mm. I just think we'd better hurry. 968 00:58:36,463 --> 00:58:39,462 All these kids, they were killed around the holidays, yeah? 969 00:58:39,463 --> 00:58:41,462 Yep. Easter, Christmas, New Year's. 970 00:58:41,463 --> 00:58:43,298 Yep. Your point? 971 00:58:44,463 --> 00:58:46,298 Well, Christmas is two weeks away. 972 00:58:51,131 --> 00:58:52,797 Police continued their search today 973 00:58:52,798 --> 00:58:55,462 of the Belanglo State Forest, south-west of Sydney, 974 00:58:55,463 --> 00:58:58,462 for more clues to the murders of seven backpackers. 975 00:58:58,463 --> 00:58:59,462 Oh. 976 00:58:59,463 --> 00:59:01,462 Margaret. 977 00:59:01,463 --> 00:59:03,130 Hmm? 978 00:59:03,131 --> 00:59:06,462 This is Ivan here, isn't it? Mm. 979 00:59:06,463 --> 00:59:09,462 Oh, the girls loved Ivan. 980 00:59:09,463 --> 00:59:12,462 He was the smart one. He was a good boy. 981 00:59:12,463 --> 00:59:14,462 Some property was found in the search area. 982 00:59:14,463 --> 00:59:16,462 He's so cute. 983 00:59:16,463 --> 00:59:18,462 Some of that property does relate to 984 00:59:18,463 --> 00:59:22,462 the missing backpackers Neugebauer and Habschied. 985 00:59:22,463 --> 00:59:25,462 The personal items are now being examined 986 00:59:25,463 --> 00:59:28,462 as the post-mortems continue on the bodies of the young Germans. 987 00:59:28,463 --> 00:59:31,964 So far, police have received more than 1,600 calls 988 00:59:31,965 --> 00:59:35,462 from people wanting to help find the backpackers killer or killers. 989 00:59:35,463 --> 00:59:37,462 And on a lighter note, 990 00:59:37,463 --> 00:59:40,630 it's now only 10 days till Christmas. 991 00:59:40,631 --> 00:59:43,463 If you're like me, you probably haven't even started shopping... 992 01:00:19,463 --> 01:00:21,965 Thank you, mate. Listen, Rod, just give me another... 993 01:00:24,463 --> 01:00:26,463 Is that alright, boss? Alright. 994 01:00:34,798 --> 01:00:36,964 Clive and I thought you might want to take a look at this. 995 01:00:36,965 --> 01:00:39,463 What is it? A family. 996 01:00:40,463 --> 01:00:42,462 Right. Well, it's top priority, is it? 997 01:00:42,463 --> 01:00:44,463 Fuck me, Paul, you want it or not? 998 01:00:45,463 --> 01:00:48,298 Yeah. No, I'll take it. Thanks, Neil. 999 01:01:19,463 --> 01:01:21,462 Listen, mate, 1000 01:01:21,463 --> 01:01:23,462 I've gotta start scouting round these gun shops tomorrow. 1001 01:01:23,463 --> 01:01:25,462 You wanna come with me? 1002 01:01:25,463 --> 01:01:27,463 No, I'm gonna stick with this. OK. 1003 01:01:47,298 --> 01:01:49,462 How do you know it was me who called Crime Stoppers? 1004 01:01:49,463 --> 01:01:52,462 Well, we had a, uh... a call from Janine. 1005 01:01:52,463 --> 01:01:55,463 I called the next day, left our names. Someone had to. 1006 01:01:56,965 --> 01:02:03,463 So, Des, you, uh... you went shooting with Richard Milat in June '91. 1007 01:02:04,464 --> 01:02:06,462 Once. 1008 01:02:06,463 --> 01:02:08,462 He called it Milat Mountain. 1009 01:02:08,463 --> 01:02:12,462 His brother Wally had this SKS Chinese assault rifle. 1010 01:02:12,463 --> 01:02:13,462 Come on, Des. 1011 01:02:13,463 --> 01:02:15,463 No, piss off. You guys go ahead. 1012 01:02:33,463 --> 01:02:34,798 Aarggh! Fuck! Fuck! 1013 01:02:39,463 --> 01:02:43,462 Fuckin' maniacs! You could have killed me! 1014 01:02:43,463 --> 01:02:45,462 Fuck! Fuck! Alright! 1015 01:02:45,463 --> 01:02:48,463 The look on your fuckin' face, mate. 1016 01:02:50,463 --> 01:02:52,462 It was their own private shooting range. 1017 01:02:52,463 --> 01:02:55,463 They must have fired off 2,000 rounds. 1018 01:02:56,463 --> 01:02:58,462 We have a record of, uh... 1019 01:02:58,463 --> 01:03:00,630 Of you stating in September '92 1020 01:03:00,631 --> 01:03:03,462 that you heard Richard say there were more bodies out there. 1021 01:03:03,463 --> 01:03:05,462 "They haven't found them Germans." 1022 01:03:05,463 --> 01:03:08,130 That's more than a year before Gabor Neugebauer 1023 01:03:08,131 --> 01:03:09,462 and Anja Habschied were discovered. 1024 01:03:09,463 --> 01:03:10,797 He said other things too. 1025 01:03:10,798 --> 01:03:12,463 Des, tell 'em what he told you. 1026 01:03:15,463 --> 01:03:18,964 It was the same day that he said that other... stuff. 1027 01:03:18,965 --> 01:03:22,630 At work, the guys was all talking about the murders 1028 01:03:22,631 --> 01:03:25,297 and Richard says, 1029 01:03:25,298 --> 01:03:29,463 "You could pick up anybody on that road and never find them again." 1030 01:03:30,463 --> 01:03:32,462 And he was talking about the Hume Highway? 1031 01:03:32,463 --> 01:03:33,462 Well, I think so. 1032 01:03:33,463 --> 01:03:36,462 Yeah, but, look, Richard's a stoner. 1033 01:03:36,463 --> 01:03:39,462 Sometimes he talks crazy shit when he's stoned. 1034 01:03:39,463 --> 01:03:40,797 But that property where they took Des shooting, 1035 01:03:40,798 --> 01:03:44,463 that's not far from where they found them girls in Belanglo. 1036 01:03:57,463 --> 01:03:58,463 G'day. 1037 01:04:00,463 --> 01:04:02,462 Ivan, please. 1038 01:04:02,463 --> 01:04:03,462 Just relax, will ya?! 1039 01:04:03,463 --> 01:04:05,130 What's your problem?! 1040 01:04:05,131 --> 01:04:07,463 ..problem?! 1041 01:04:09,463 --> 01:04:11,463 Get back in the bloody car! 1042 01:04:14,463 --> 01:04:15,463 Cheeky bitch! 1043 01:04:18,463 --> 01:04:21,298 Ivan? 1044 01:04:24,463 --> 01:04:25,463 Ivan? 1045 01:04:28,463 --> 01:04:30,463 Tea's ready. 1046 01:04:31,463 --> 01:04:34,462 I think I might go for a drive, Shirl. 1047 01:04:34,463 --> 01:04:36,131 Righto. 1048 01:06:55,851 --> 01:06:58,651 What if it's got nothing to do with backpacking? 1049 01:06:58,686 --> 01:07:01,518 What if it's got nothing to do with coming from overseas? 1050 01:07:01,575 --> 01:07:03,275 Come on, what if it's just simpler? 1051 01:07:03,293 --> 01:07:05,293 You know, hitchhiking and Liverpool. 1052 01:07:05,294 --> 01:07:07,292 They could have all left from there. 1053 01:07:07,293 --> 01:07:09,292 Even Gabor and Anja, heading towards Darwin. 1054 01:07:09,293 --> 01:07:12,293 Yeah, look, they all have records, they all live in the area. 1055 01:07:12,293 --> 01:07:13,293 Yeah, but were they working there? I mean... 1056 01:07:13,294 --> 01:07:16,292 No, no, no. Hear me out. No, alright? 1057 01:07:16,293 --> 01:07:19,127 I know what big families are like - I come from one, alright? 1058 01:07:19,128 --> 01:07:20,794 They're aggressive, they're super-loyal. 1059 01:07:20,795 --> 01:07:23,292 These guys, they're Yugoslavs. 1060 01:07:23,293 --> 01:07:25,292 Come on, am I crazy? 1061 01:07:25,293 --> 01:07:27,795 This is the first file they gave me. 1062 01:07:31,795 --> 01:07:33,795 What are you doing? I'm gonna show him. 1063 01:07:37,293 --> 01:07:38,292 Well, check his file. 1064 01:07:38,293 --> 01:07:40,292 See if he was in jail on the dates they went missing. 1065 01:07:40,293 --> 01:07:43,960 That's not hard. Get it back to me today. 1066 01:07:43,961 --> 01:07:45,627 How long have you had this file? 1067 01:07:45,628 --> 01:07:47,628 I've had it for about a week. So? 1068 01:07:47,628 --> 01:07:50,293 Have you been concentrating just on this one file? 1069 01:07:50,294 --> 01:07:53,293 Yeah. I've been giving it a lot of my focus. 1070 01:07:54,293 --> 01:07:56,293 I don't need to tell you how often a killer's ID'd early, you know? 1071 01:07:56,294 --> 01:07:58,293 Sometimes in the first logbook. 1072 01:07:59,293 --> 01:08:00,294 No, you don't. 1073 01:08:02,293 --> 01:08:04,292 A lot of these Milats, they have records, 1074 01:08:04,293 --> 01:08:07,292 they live in the area and they all love guns. 1075 01:08:07,293 --> 01:08:09,292 Paul, we gave you this file because we think it's a good lead too, 1076 01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:11,292 but do you know how many people who live in this area 1077 01:08:11,293 --> 01:08:12,960 have records and like guns? 1078 01:08:12,961 --> 01:08:15,292 Well, I'd say probably quite a few. Quite a few. 1079 01:08:15,293 --> 01:08:17,292 Most of an investigation of this size 1080 01:08:17,293 --> 01:08:19,292 is not about zeroing in on one suspect, 1081 01:08:19,293 --> 01:08:22,292 it is about eliminating who is NOT the killer. 1082 01:08:22,293 --> 01:08:25,292 It's the boring stuff. We've got a system in place. 1083 01:08:25,293 --> 01:08:27,292 You can't just start accusing the first person you investigate. 1084 01:08:27,293 --> 01:08:29,627 It's not that I'm accusing anybody, it's just... 1085 01:08:29,628 --> 01:08:31,293 I just have a gut feeling about... Gut feeling? 1086 01:08:31,294 --> 01:08:33,292 Do you know what that's called? 1087 01:08:33,293 --> 01:08:35,794 Zeroing in on one line of inquiry? Tunnel vision. 1088 01:08:35,795 --> 01:08:38,292 I cannot have this case depending on gut feelings. 1089 01:08:38,293 --> 01:08:40,293 Do you know what a defence counsel would do with that? 1090 01:08:40,294 --> 01:08:42,292 They would say, "Your Honour, 1091 01:08:42,293 --> 01:08:44,292 "they zeroed in on our client from day one. 1092 01:08:44,293 --> 01:08:45,460 "They didn't even look at anyone else." 1093 01:08:45,461 --> 01:08:47,960 I don't want gut feelings, I don't want hunches, 1094 01:08:47,961 --> 01:08:50,961 I want a case that is provable in the Supreme Court. 1095 01:08:54,293 --> 01:08:57,292 The unfortunate result of travelling down a one-way street 1096 01:08:57,293 --> 01:09:00,292 is often it's very difficult to turn around. 1097 01:09:00,293 --> 01:09:04,293 Now, you've misspelt 'significant' three times. It's a C, not a G. 1098 01:09:12,293 --> 01:09:15,460 The investigation's been broadened. We're looking at Newcastle now. 1099 01:09:15,461 --> 01:09:18,292 Come on, I've got something. 1100 01:09:18,293 --> 01:09:20,292 Is this about the Milats? I was just doing my fucking job. 1101 01:09:20,293 --> 01:09:22,292 I need you to follow up on something. 1102 01:09:22,293 --> 01:09:25,292 I was just in the middle of getting work timesheets for the Milats. 1103 01:09:25,293 --> 01:09:26,627 Yeah, well, that can wait. 1104 01:09:26,628 --> 01:09:28,794 I've got a barmaid in Liverpool who overheard some soldiers 1105 01:09:28,795 --> 01:09:30,794 talking about shooting people in the forest. 1106 01:09:30,795 --> 01:09:32,794 Now, this was before anyone was killed. 1107 01:09:32,795 --> 01:09:35,292 Royce, we really want to get this stuff on Richard before people... 1108 01:09:35,293 --> 01:09:38,293 It's the boss's orders, I'm sorry. I need you at Holsworthy now. 1109 01:09:47,628 --> 01:09:49,293 The army base is back that way. 1110 01:09:52,293 --> 01:09:54,293 Where you going, Paul? 1111 01:10:01,293 --> 01:10:03,292 Task Force Air. That's the backpackers, isn't it? 1112 01:10:03,293 --> 01:10:07,293 We're here to check the timesheets of the gun owners in the area. 1113 01:10:08,293 --> 01:10:13,292 We need to know if Richard was working on any of those dates. 1114 01:10:13,293 --> 01:10:15,460 I can get that for you, but it'll take a couple of hours, mate. 1115 01:10:15,461 --> 01:10:17,292 His files have been boxed up. Alright. 1116 01:10:17,293 --> 01:10:20,292 Well, when you do, could you fax it through to that number there 1117 01:10:20,293 --> 01:10:22,292 and, I don't know, maybe add the names 1118 01:10:22,293 --> 01:10:24,292 of any of Richard's known associates 1119 01:10:24,293 --> 01:10:25,960 you might remember. 1120 01:10:25,961 --> 01:10:27,293 Yeah. 1121 01:10:32,293 --> 01:10:34,292 We weren't supposed to get a list of his friends. 1122 01:10:34,293 --> 01:10:36,292 We were supposed to get the timesheets, 1123 01:10:36,293 --> 01:10:37,292 not make waves - that was the brief. 1124 01:10:37,293 --> 01:10:39,292 We'll be OK. 1125 01:10:39,293 --> 01:10:41,128 Are we going to the army base now? Yep. 1126 01:10:42,293 --> 01:10:44,292 But since we're all the way out here, 1127 01:10:44,293 --> 01:10:46,293 we might as well check Ivan's work sheets first. 1128 01:10:49,293 --> 01:10:53,127 Donny Boardwick used to say that if he had 10 Ivan Milats, 1129 01:10:53,128 --> 01:10:56,293 he'd be able to retar the entire Hume Highway in a week. 1130 01:10:58,293 --> 01:11:01,292 He as a good bloke too. Ivan never fudged his hours. 1131 01:11:01,293 --> 01:11:02,961 Not like some of those guys. 1132 01:11:04,293 --> 01:11:07,293 You know, I reckon those timesheets are in the basement. 1133 01:11:07,294 --> 01:11:09,293 I'm gonna have to get back to you on this. 1134 01:11:09,293 --> 01:11:12,292 I'd really like them before you break for Christmas. 1135 01:11:12,293 --> 01:11:15,292 If I find them, I'll fax them through by 6:00. 1136 01:11:15,293 --> 01:11:16,628 OK. 1137 01:11:23,293 --> 01:11:25,293 Are we going to the army base now? Yeah. 1138 01:11:38,793 --> 01:11:41,394 1139 01:11:41,470 --> 01:11:44,469 1140 01:11:45,231 --> 01:11:47,230 1141 01:11:47,231 --> 01:11:51,065 1142 01:11:51,066 --> 01:11:55,065 ♪ Am I ever gonna see your face again? ♪ 1143 01:11:55,066 --> 01:11:57,399 No way, get fucked, fuck off! 1144 01:11:57,399 --> 01:11:59,230 Oh, stop it. 1145 01:11:59,231 --> 01:12:01,231 ♪ Am I ever gonna see your face again? ♪ 1146 01:12:01,232 --> 01:12:04,231 No way, get fucked, fuck off! 1147 01:12:04,231 --> 01:12:06,230 1148 01:12:06,231 --> 01:12:09,399 my brain 1149 01:12:10,733 --> 01:12:14,230 ♪ I get no answer, so the question still... ♪ 1150 01:12:14,231 --> 01:12:15,231 You're home early. 1151 01:12:16,399 --> 01:12:18,231 Had to stop off and get these. 1152 01:12:22,566 --> 01:12:24,733 Here we are. 1153 01:12:37,231 --> 01:12:39,231 Thought I'd find you here. 1154 01:12:41,231 --> 01:12:42,231 What's the matter? 1155 01:12:43,899 --> 01:12:47,065 According to Richard Milat's timesheets, 1156 01:12:47,066 --> 01:12:50,231 he was at work when Everist and Gibson went missing. 1157 01:12:52,231 --> 01:12:55,231 And Simone Schmidl. Shit. 1158 01:12:56,566 --> 01:12:59,231 None of these dates match Richard. 1159 01:13:00,231 --> 01:13:02,231 Where are you having dinner tonight, Paul? 1160 01:13:03,231 --> 01:13:06,230 I'm alright. Christmas Eve, mate, hey? 1161 01:13:06,231 --> 01:13:08,230 Why don't you come over? Julie would love it, mate. 1162 01:13:08,231 --> 01:13:10,230 Neil. You're welcome to come to our place. 1163 01:13:10,231 --> 01:13:11,230 I'm gonna go to my brother's. It's fine. 1164 01:13:11,231 --> 01:13:14,230 Alright, good. 1165 01:13:14,231 --> 01:13:16,271 Can you check if those are Ivan's timesheets for me? 1166 01:13:17,231 --> 01:13:18,271 Then I'm going home, Paul. 1167 01:13:23,231 --> 01:13:25,231 Alright. Um... 1168 01:13:26,733 --> 01:13:30,231 December 30, 1989. 1169 01:13:33,231 --> 01:13:35,231 Ivan was on holidays. 1170 01:13:47,899 --> 01:13:51,231 January 20, 1991. 1171 01:13:56,231 --> 01:13:57,231 Off again. 1172 01:14:12,231 --> 01:14:15,231 December 26, 1991. 1173 01:14:17,231 --> 01:14:18,232 Off. 1174 01:14:26,231 --> 01:14:30,231 April 18, 1992. 1175 01:14:34,231 --> 01:14:36,231 Off. 1176 01:14:53,231 --> 01:14:55,231 G'day, girls. How are ya? 1177 01:14:57,231 --> 01:14:59,231 Jump in. 1178 01:15:01,231 --> 01:15:03,231 It's Ivan Milat. 1179 01:15:04,231 --> 01:15:06,231 How are we gonna prove it? 1180 01:15:17,772 --> 01:15:59,600